OpenLP 2.9.4 aka 3.0 RC1 OFFICIAL DISCUSSION

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  • @ebowen What happened is that there were a whole lot of code changes between 2.9.2 and 2.9.4 which caused a functionality regression. Unfortunately it's not a simple case of just restoring the functionality because there are a whole lot of other things that happened. At the moment we're just trying to find the time to get another RC out (I have one outstanding item that I've not been able to get to), but once that is done I'll see if there's a way for the functionality to be restored. Like I said, it's complicated, and it's not a simple thing to fix.

  • I am so glad to hear that RC 2 is near. Can't wait for it!

    Thanks a lot for your effort, Raoul & Team!

    Joe

  • Juste a little bug spotted in OpenLP 2.9.4 on Windows 10 :

    When we hide the preview panel (in the top menu : View -> uncheck Preview Panel) il works, but the preview panel appears again if we quit and restart OpenLP.

    Hope it can help :)

    Thanks a lot to all the dev team for this amazing software !

  • Please check the impact of these settings:

    I think that 2.9.4 takes a long time to close as it tries to close these connectors which are unavailable. If a Controller is unavailable its default should probably not be checked.

    Been using OpenLP for many years.

  • I see that the Android Remote is leaving us. This was THE feature that made OpenLP very useful for our small church.

    It has been great to be able to control slides from the pulpit whenever I needed to.

    Are there ways to control OpenLP remotely without using a form of remote desktop?

  • Yes if you open any browser and input the IP address of the OpenLP server (for example: 192.168.X.XXX:4316, which you can find in the remote interface settings of OpenLP) you can control the service from that web browser. I switchd from using the OpenLP app on IOS to using the web remote. Not sure if this answered your question or not, but hope it helped.

  • @revncele The Android Remote is deprecated, but that's because we're focusing on the Web Remote, which has the same (and more) functionality, and is much more responsive too.

    As @Brian116 said, just open the Remote Interface settings in OpenLP 2.9.4, and either use the QR code, or type in the address into your phone's browser, and you'll get a fully functional remote.

  • In the Downloads section of the OpenLP website, it states that on a Mac, OS 10.9 is the minimum OS for both versions - 2.4.6 and 2.9.4 - of OpenLP.

    I have tried downloading my 'own' disk image and I have also tried bringing across the disk images which I downloaded to two different Macs, but I cannot get 2.9.4 to run on MacOS 10.15.x (Catalina). It is 'damaged' and I am asked if I want to cancel or move the Application to the Bin. (See image)

    Version 2.4.6 runs correctly.

    Am I doing something wrong - likely - or have the minimum system requirements changed?

    Thanks for any help!

    Andrew



  • Thanks, @raoul.

    I remember reading that some time ago, but as all of my installations at the time were working, I had completely forgotten about it.

    Having said that, running the command in Terminal - I copied and pasted it to ensure I got it right - hasn't fixed the problem. I wondered whether a computer restart was required, even though that wasn't stated. I tried the restart, but it still isn't working. :(

    What do I try next?

  • I am working in Windows 11 and Windows 10.

    In WIN-11 today I was able to capture screen shot of the task manager and a log file for OpenLP taking a very long time to close.

    Thank you for all the work on OpenLP. I see several improvements over the years. Keep up the good work.

  • I see a significant difference with the Themes from 2.4.6 and 2.9.4 . I have exported/imported the most often used themes, but each needs a lot of editing. The main issue is how a font is displayed, particularly in the way it is outlined. The 2.9.4 fonts are not as bold, as thus difficult to get them as readable as in 2.4.6.

    I have made sure the monitors have the same resolution in 2.4.6 and 2.9.4.

    Thank you again for all the great work.

  • @raoul

    This is weird.

    I have just tried typing - not copying and pasting as previously - the quarantine command into Terminal on my macOS Catalina 10.15.7 installation on my Mac mini and this time I have success.

    I'm not complaining, but I am left wondering. However, you have plenty of other things to worry about, so please don't lose sleep or devote any time to this.

    Blessings,

    Andrew

  • @revncele

    The main issue is how a font is displayed, particularly in the way it is outlined.

    Yes, we have reverted how the outlines are generated, and it will be part of the next release.

  • @AndrewK

    I have just tried typing - not copying and pasting as previously - the quarantine command into Terminal on my macOS Catalina 10.15.7 installation on my Mac mini and this time I have success.

    At a guess, I'd say that there was some issue in the process of the copy-paste.

  • Looking at the new release, generally looking good, but have a couple of problems with the linked audio.

    Firstly I cant find the setting to set linked audio to be paused. It used to be in General Settings, but now isn't there.

    Secondly, I cant see a setting to switch audio track, we keep several linked audio files with different hymn tunes, 2.4 used to have a drop down box under the 'live' display for selecting tracks, I cant see how to select an alternative track on 2.9.4.

    Sorry if there have been answered already, I searched but couldn't find a solution.

  • Been using openlp for a few years, testing the new version and finding a couple of issues. This may have already been listed, sorry if my search has failed.

    --Open service file automatically if double clicked

    If I double click an openlp service file (.osz) on my desktop, then OpenLP 2.9.4. starts up but does not load the service file. Previous versions would (as expected OS behaviour) open up with the file already loaded. (Win10)

    --OpenLP does not retain display settings

    We have a use case where we edit the OpenLP service files on the same laptop that we run the service on. When we run the service we have a projector connected by HDMI. When we edit the service files the projector isn't connected (it's installed in the venue).

    OpenLP 2.9.4 detects the missing projector and automatically changes the Screen options to show the output on the laptop screen (making it difficult to get to the OpenLP window). Then when we get to the venue on Sunday we have to reset the options to display on the projector.

    Previous versions of OpenLP didn't do this, it would leave the output set to projector / 2nd monitor even if it didn't exist. This was preferable behaviour for us as it avoids having to change the output options all the time. There may be an option I have missed to enable this behaviour?

  • @congoblue you said

    We have a use case where we edit the OpenLP service files on the same laptop that we run the service on. When we run the service we have a projector connected by HDMI. When we edit the service files the projector isn't connected (it's installed in the venue). 

    OpenLP 2.9.4 detects the missing projector and automatically changes the Screen options to show the output on the laptop screen (making it difficult to get to the OpenLP window). Then when we get to the venue on Sunday we have to reset the options to display on the projector. 

    Previous versions of OpenLP didn't do this, it would leave the output set to projector / 2nd monitor even if it didn't exist. This was preferable behaviour for us as it avoids having to change the output options all the time. There may be an option I have missed to enable this behaviour?

    I have the same misbehaviour with 2.9.4 on macOS (various versions). I agree that previous versions of OpenLP didn't behave this way. I have now avoided opening OpenLP on my 'production' machine unless I'm at church and connected to the HDMI connected TV. It's not a great option, especially in winter!

    I have assumed that the problem was that OpenLP wasn't (always) recognising the connected external display(s). In a different thread, @raoul said:

    "Also, set up your displays BEFORE starting OpenLP. This ensures that OpenLP knows what's going on when it starts up."

    I haven't found that it makes any difference what order I do things, but, as I have a workaround of sorts, I wasn't going to bother Raoul with this one until he and the team have got v. 3.0 out and sort of stable. But now that someone else has the same/similar problem, maybe they can have a look at it. I wouldn't object if this was fixed.

    Blessings,

    Andrew

  • @AndrewK if you always ensure your projector/output device is plugged in before you start OpenLP then there is no problem. But I edit the service at home during the week and it is impossible for me to plug in the projector because it's installed at the school we use for church services.

    I guess you could get around it by plugging in an EDID simulator which would make OpenLP think the projector is still there but it would be better if there was an option to prevent OpenLP's new behaviour of automatically updating the Display options.

    This is only a minor issue but it does add an extra potential "gotcha" for our tech operators on a Sunday morning.

  • @congoblue that's exactly my problem. I create and edit the service at home on the church's laptop and then take the laptop to church on Sunday morning. Well, that's what I would like to do! But the difficulty in getting the screen settings correct when I go to church on Sunday morning makes it easier to leave putting the service together on the church laptop until I take it there, usually on a Saturday afternoon. As it is now, I prepare slides (in Keynote) at home then go to church on the Saturday afternoon to put things together and have a dummy run to make sure that everything is working.

    At no stage do I start OpenLP without the HDMI TV attached. It is a pain, but the grief of trying to reset the display settings is not worth it to me.

    I'd prefer it to update the display options each time. When I plug into the HDMI TV, it should adjust the settings, as it used to. When I open OpenLP using only my laptop, it should adapt the settings for that scenario, again, as I believe it used to do. Then when I go back to church and have the HDMI connected TV, it should recognise that again and set the display settings accordingly.

  • I have a question, will there be the ability to add transitions to a list of image files in the finale release of 3.0? I just wanted to say thank you all for what you do in getting this program out. I know it is a lot of hard work, and when you do it in your spare time, it shows how much dedication you all have.

  • Hi! I'm uisng the last version OpenLP 2.9.4 on Windows 10 and 11 and when I try to select a lot of songs (more than 100) it crashes and it closes. So I have to delete them twenty or thirty at a time. Is there another way to delete a lot of songs, that I don't know? Or is it possibile to fix this error that causes the crash and the close of the software? Thanks a lot

  • OK so playing around with the RC1 version on windows, when ever I play a video clip from media it plays fine but at the end it restarts and plays a second or two from the beginning again then stops.

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