[Feature Request]

edited July 2014 in Development
Theme
When ‘Edit Theme’, ability to click ‘Finish’ at any stage.
Bible and Songs display last before Blank to Theme or Desktop appears as flash when sending out a new song or Bible verse(s).
After ‘Edit Theme’, it should automatically affect song in the ‘Preview Section’ (See Easy Worship)
Add Header option to the Output Display i.e. Header (e.g. Song Title, Verse Number, and Bible Reference), Body (Song, Bible verse, Custom Slide) and Footer (Copyright). Ability to format of each i.e. font face, size colour and line colour (See Video Psalms)
Ability to turn off header and footer not to display
Ability to group themes e.g. Announcement, Songs, Bible

Song
Ability to add Song(s) to more than one ‘Book’
Group songs in a book together by using the expand (+) and minimize (-) icon so that songs without Book can be grouped together under unknown (See Video Psalms)
Song Properties display under the ‘Preview Section’ i.e. Song Book, Number, Author, Verse order
Ability to change a ‘Song Verse Order’ in the preview or Live Display without going to ‘Edit Song’
Use of text editor e.g. ribbons to format text i.e. Bold, underline, italic, superscript, subscript, colour, font size, typeface and more for personal defined formatting options etc.

Bible
Bilingual: Ability to change Font, colour and outline colour each Bible Language (See Video Psalms)
When Bible in is Bilingual, ability to display half half of each and the remaining half half on next slide not a whole language on a slide and the other on next slide.
Support for Lower Third Display of Verses with animated background (IMAG)

General
Fast Load when opening
Support for animated background
On opening, OpenLP should open to Desktop Background
Ability to group Media i.e. Video
Use of more quiz Logo: having a foreground image (see Easy Worship)
Record to Hard Drive or DVD and ability to choose the format i.e. HD, SD etc.

Alert
Use of Nursery and Message Alert (See Easy Worship)

Comments

  • edited July 2014
    Most of your ideas sound good although I think, from how you describe them, that you might find that they are already in OpenLP.

    You can already do bold, underline, italic, superscript, subscript and colour by highlighting the text, right clicking and using the 'Formatting Tags' options. Font size and typeface is currently set by the theme for all the text on a slide although it might be possible to create a formatting tag to have different typefaces on one slide although the theme would probably overwrite that.

    For the Lower Third Display you might find this discussion helpful http://forums.openlp.org/discussion/comment/6915

    There are two current ways of having an animated background; One, select a video from the media tab and use the replace live background option (button that is a monitor with a black screen), Two, use video player play a video in that and use a transparent theme.

    The ability to group media (at least for pictures) is coming in the next release if I remember correctly. 

    I assume by "Record to Hard Drive or DVD and ability to choose the format i.e. HD, SD etc." you mean recording the live output. If so then that should be possible by using a screen recording program and setting it to record the screen which has the live display on (At least you can with SSR on Linux I am not sure about other OSes or programs).

    And there are already alerts in OpenLP under the tools menu or by pressing 'F7'.

    I hope that helps you, I particularly liked your ideas for themes.
  • > Ability to turn off header and footer not to display

    You can change position of footer to out of area (ex.:width:2900px)
  • What I meant by text formatting is that it should be more of Graphical like the one in this comment box using 'B', 'I', 'U' instead of right clicking to apply it.

    Replace live background did not work on my computer for video but did work for pictures.

    Yes, do see that link before and it did work for the Lower Third Display but can it be integrated in future version of OpenLP as a feature and can it also supports annimated Lower Third Titles. Also, it does not refresh the link in the targetd folder when used, i.e. if changes are made to the graphics and re-saved to the folder, OpenLP brings the former title until the name is changed in the folder and the formatting tags.

    For the alerts, what is meant is that something I can configure the background size not to spread and also to allow transparent background and changing of text colour. Also, the have a scrollable format.

    Thanks, the team is really doing a great job.

    God bless.

    Oluwatobi.
  • tobsowo I think some of what you are requesting for alerts is not written well because you have missed a feature of openlp.

    Changing foreground text colour in openlp is done by using formatting tags.  "{r}hello{/r} {bl}test{\bl}" in alert string ends up with a red hello and a blue test.   What is missing out the alert window is the right click does not have format tags menu.   So yes currently openlp allows you to change the text colour in alerts.   Interface change text colour needs a fix.

    tobsowo the format tags idea is to enforce consistency.   So no random shades of red or the like.   I do think putting a formatting button with format tags listing under it could be useful for new users.   Basically if a church wants to forbid lets say bold under openlp you can remove that from formatting tags and this can be making it a no-op.   The fact openlp has gone for configurable is why the general B I and U buttons will not fit.   Of course this does not mean not having any buttons is the right thing.

    Think of openlp as enforcing 1 style sheet on everything to enforce consistency.   Same with songs where you are asking for a general editor.   How are you going to have consistency in look if you allow a person to use items not in the format tags/style sheet.    Due to formatting tags being html based it is insanely powerful.    In fact there are more formatting options in html css than MS word offers.   The option to go formatting tags is avoid overloading operator.  Now is should format tags be displayed to the operator.  Menu or Some form of bar.

    Yes having to go into a menu to add a new format tag makes you think do I really want to be using this or is there something else existing close enough to maintain consistency.

    Too much freedom can be a very bad thing particularly when you have html css styling accessible.

    tobsowo video live background it is very picky.  You must use webkit backend in stable branch vlc or any other backend and it fails. Development branch does not allow you to choose any other backend for live background other than webkit.   So you video has to play with webkit or live background is not going to work. 
  • Do like the alert feature especially the us of parameter but what I'm requesting for is having to display alert text that is longer not on two lines but a single line that will scroll and can be repeated based on the configuration.

    Also, when we sing hymn we uses alert to display the hymn number in which case the alert backgroud needs no covers the width screen.

    For live video background, when thn video is previewed with VLC it played but will not replace live background. On using webkit for preview the video preview is blanked and do not replace live display although there is no error message.

    On formatting tag, I do want to suggest a menu or icon bar with a more link for personall created tags because like what I have presently is a long list of tags and also for new users it looks too technical. Maybe considering Users Experience while there be a settings option to add or remove tags.

    GOD BLESS

  • Do like the alert feature especially the us of parameter but what I'm
    requesting for is having to display alert text that is longer not on two
    lines but a single line that will scroll and can be repeated based on
    the configuration.
    This is really a complete feature request.   And I cannot find it on http://wiki.openlp.org/Feature_Requests or in the bug tracker.

    tobsowo for Live video background.   Blanked in preview and no error message that is fairly much normal with webkit when you give it a video it don't like.   If video displays blanked in preview with webkit it will work as a live video background.   This is just the current limitation.

    On formatting tag, I do want to suggest a menu or icon bar with a more
    link for personall created tags because like what I have presently is a
    long list of tags and also for new users it looks too technical. Maybe
    considering Users Experience while there be a settings option to add or
    remove tags.

    I think we are getting closed to what you are after.  I would think adding a option to settings-> "configure format tags" setting a tickbox to make the tag display on menu bar and those not selected be drop down menu would be a option.    There is also currently no way to associate a format tag with a Icon again this would be extend the "configure format tags" to include a section for icons to effect.   So it becomes a few requests.

    1) Add option to settings-> "configure format tags" to allow tags to be hidden.
    2) Add option to settings-> "configure format tags" to associate icon with tag.
    3) Add bar for display tag by description or icon where text is edited with a drop down containing hidden tags.

    tobsowo add and remove tags we currently can do with format tags at risk of nightmare that a song using a tag no longer has it.   I think you are more after hide or display options.    Lot of Users Experience options in application work very much the same way. 

    If this matches what you are after I think we have worked out the feature request for this in a way that will fit how openlp will is designed to operate.

    You have to think of format tags as a style sheet add or remove a tag from a style sheet is major.   Hide or display is a minor and mostly harmless.
  • oiaohm, satisfied with that of formatting tag and also the update done to future request page.

    On theme can there be a finish button at any stage when editting a theme because sometimes it may be only the font size that needs to be changed but have to get to end to be able to click finish.

    On alert, it seems to be a complete new feature. Do plan to introduce OpenLP as our Worship Software in Church and Alerts as described above is the most used feature in EasyWorshp that we currently use.

    Thank you Oiaohm for you for your patience and understanding.
  • tobsowo I started using openlp here because I got sick of EasyWorship finding horrible ways to die when playing videos.

    I normally don't have the time to code on openlp and I am waiting on a python3 version before I play too much.   Yes I am interested in having format tags improved.   It was my experiences with both.   EasyWorship was less consistent with different operators resulting size fonts and colours being different due to too much editing power.

    Lets just say I am a step a head of you.  When I first went across to openlp I had the same issue that the interface appeared to crippled.  Using openlp for a while you learn crippled it good at times.   The issue is striking the magical balance between freedom and results.

    tobsowo I found why the finish is at end of theme edit.   I only just noticed it.  Do edit a theme notice the back button click it.    Yes the edit theme is the new theme dialogue are the same dialogue with a different title bar.    Remember more code equals more possible bugs.   Maybe change to a tabbed dialogue so you can click on a tab edit particular sections then click on the preview tab to finish also being a tab dialogue would not interfere with a person using it to make a new theme in fact show them how far along they are in the process.   Really you should preview before hitting finished just in case you alteration was not as minor as expected.   Tabbed would be two clicks to finish instead of 1 like a finish button.

    tobsowo think of it this way I am using Openlp and if your changes get implemented and make my life horrible I am the one who is going to suffer.   I don't want you to suffer either.   So its in my best interest to speak up now.   I am thankful for your patience as well.   If we work with each other we will be able to get to some very sane suggestion for developers that help everyone.   Yes the major difference I have used openlp more than you tobsowo and understand its mechanics more.   I guess I have been able to make openlp make more sense to you why it doing some things that appear odd.
  • Yes, you have make OpenLP make more sense to me and why it's doing some things that appear odd.

    The tab way is better because its neccessary to preview before finish. Also, when a theme is editted, it should automatically affect what is in the preview i.e. Bible, song etc.

    What about the billingual Bible display that split both language on different screen e.g. Esther 8:9. My suggestion is to have a fixed font size that can be well seen and the texts are wrap in it, let say for example using
    and
    which formatting style can be apply so that any remaining text for each div's show on next slide. Just trying to use my little knowledge in HTML to explain because I cant programme in phyton yet.

    Also, when someone comment on a post in this forum that I have posted to, is there a way to get email alert so as to be able to respond quickly.

    Thanks much oiaohm.
  • Hi,

    I echo tobsowo's request for:

    Do like the alert feature especially the use of parameter but what I'm
    requesting for is having to display alert text that is longer not on two
    lines but a single line that will scroll and can be repeated based on
    the configuration.


    To add on, it's not the timing in seconds that I want it to scroll for, but the number of times the entire message should be repeated.

    This is an awesome application!  Thank you so much!
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